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The Ethics of Sourcing
by Katie Carty Tierney on Jul 10, 2007 - 06:32 PM read 2574 times
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There has been a lot of chatter recently on the various Recruiting-related blog sites about the ethical challenges of finding “passive candidates.” Passive candidates are those candidates who are not out actively seeking new opportunities, but who are willing to look at opportunities that might come their way. Many companies dole out lots of cash for the services of telephone names sourcers, who provide lists of potential passive candidates and their contact information. Other companies train their entire recruiting teams to use aggressive tactics to find and secure high-caliber passive candidates. Most of the time, the identification of passive candidates is conducted in an ethical manner - using Google searches, references, and the like. Sometimes, though, the searches are less than ethical, and involve cheating, lying, and, plain and simple, stealing.

A recent post on the ere.net website led to a, um, lively discussion of the ethics of recruiting. Recruiters from all over disagreed on where the line is, and what it means to step over the line. This discussion focused more on the ethics of actual candidate identification, but that’s really just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

Once candidates are identified, good recruiters know how to provide appropriate, truthful information at the correct times. Good recruiters know how to keep confidential items quiet, and know how to professionally work through recruiting issues such as salary negotiations and counter-offers. Good recruiters treat candidates with respect and dignity.

Bad recruiters, those I consider to be ethically-challenged, churn and burn through candidate after candidate, sometimes ruining lives, and oftentimes wounding careers. These are the folks who lie about positions, use misleading job posts, and resort to stealing information in order to secure candidates. The bad recruiters will tell a candidate that the salary is more than what the recruiter knows the client is willing to pay. The bad recruiters will interview people only because they want referrals, not because they think that the candidate is a good job fit. The bad recruiters give us all a really bad name.

I guess I’m lucky - BSG has a culture of openness and trust. As a recruiter, I am expected, probably more than other people in the company, to live up to an exceptional standard of ethical behavior. If I do something that embarrasses me or my employer, then we both suffer. I won’t do that. I will not lie, cheat, or steal to get a candidate on board. I will act with professionalism and a deep respect for the people with whom I deal on a daily basis. That is expected of me, and it’s expected of all my colleagues at BSG. I have the support structure to continue to act in an ethical manner.

If you’re interested in some more thoughts on ethics in recruiting, check out this ere.net link. Other good posts are here, here, and here.

Have a good week!

-Katie

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    By: Susan Scrupski
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    by Katie Carty Tierney on Jul 11, 2007 - 10:28 AM read 268 times
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    Good stuff, Katie. Keep that bar raised high. As a former 1.0 BSG “fan” what attracted me to BSG was the caliber of professionals that worked there. Culture should find its way onto the balance sheet as a company’s greatest asset.

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    By: Steve Levy
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    by Katie Carty Tierney on Jul 12, 2007 - 01:58 PM read 277 times
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    Katie-

    We’ve been hashing this out for years over on ERE. If you or your readers haven’t done so, head over to www.ere.net (sign up for free) and search all categories for “ethics” and be prepared for a very long session of reading.

    Just out of curiosity, where does performance come into play in your model? There are plenty of nice people in recruiting who embody many of the attributes you highlighted in your “good” paragraph but who don’t achieve higher levels of performance or greater responsibility in the profession.

    Then we turn to the “bad” recruiters… I’ve been using this line for years and it still has yet to be answered - how many bad recruiters are out “there?” Are you sure there’s really a problem or is it all apocryphal, like an urban legend. Keep in mind that when an active candidate is in a job search, they are very sensitive to the circumstances. I am not at all saying “it’s their fault” but think about a time when you were in a job search and didn’t receive the welcome or result you believe you deserved; how did you feel about the recruiter handling the search?

    By “us”, I suppose you mean the “good” recruiters. Yet herein lies the problem… I know I’m a great recruiter; I’ll ask the manager of the restaurant with the business card bowl for the cards at the end of the week and s/he happily obliges. I’ll go to trade shows before they start with a box of donuts to gain the interest of people doing setup work. Ad infinitum. Which techniques are good and which are bad?

    What concerns me is how easy some categorize good or bad based upon techniques versus focusing on performance for the company or the client. Not only is ethics a gray area but it is replete with thousands of shades of gray.

    Pointing fingers doesn’t change the colors.

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    by Katie Carty Tierney on Jul 12, 2007 - 01:44 PM read 275 times
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    Nice overview Katie, on a very complicated and emotionally raucous subject!

    Maureen Sharib
    Telephone Names Sourcer

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    by Katie Carty Tierney on Jul 12, 2007 - 02:18 PM read 281 times
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    Steve,

    Valid points - I did not account for performance in my good versus bad argument. Obviously, if I am the nicest gal in the universe, and do absolutely everything right, if I can’t fill the jobs at the end of the day, then I’m a pretty “bad” recruiter.

    What I have seen as a candidate is pretty atrocious. I had a very desirable skill set back in the day (I was a consultant for a very high-profile software company), and I was contacted frequently by headhunters. Most of the time, I politely declined, but in 1999, when my husband and I were trying to start a family, I took a headhunter up on an interview request. He knew my salary requirements, and assured me that the client could pay them. I went through the interview process, and when I got the offer, it was more than 20% below what I was making. For various reasons, mostly due to my state of mind after having recently lost my first baby, I decided to take the offer, because the “job” was described by the headhunter as one I would enjoy. When I actually got there, I found out that I had accepted a position as a tester. I lasted less than 3 weeks. The headhunter would not return my calls, and I went on to bigger and better things (including 4 beautiful, healthy children). So, there’s one concrete example of a recruiter who lied about salary ranges, misled the candidate about the position, and misled the hiring manager as to the candidate’s willingness to take on less responsibility. It is not mythical. It happens. A LOT.

    As for where to draw the line… I don’t see any problems with the two things you mention:

    If I put my business card in a fishbowl to win a “free” dinner, I should completely understand that the information may be used. By opening my card carrier, picking up a card, and sliding it in the bowl, I am implicitly agreeing to allow the restaurant to use my information in whatever way they so choose.

    Likewise, bringing donuts to a tradeshow and pressing the flesh with the setup folks isn’t unethical, unless, of course, you’re lying about who you are. It’s actually a very intriguing way to get referrals. (And, on a related note, I used the donuts trick when they were building our house - we would bring donuts once a week to the construction workers, and I think we got a better house in the end).

    If someone lies, cheats, or steals to get a candidate, I still maintain that it is unethical, and it puts a bad light on the profession. So, to summarize:

    Lying is bad. Don’t lie.

    Thanks for the comments.
    -Katie

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    K-

    My examples were not offered as a paean for the ethical recruiting God to assess - some I’ve spoken with believe both are unethical.

    “It is not mythical. It happens. A LOT.”

    I too have experienced a bait and switch when I took a job as head of recruiting for a big red dog company. Two days in, the “personality” of my manager changed, something that never appeared during the recruiting - “yesterday we were recruiting you, today you’re staff.”

    Taught me lesson but it didn’t engender in my a belief that our profession was in a state of moral decline.

    Give me numbers relative to the total number of recruiting transactions over a period of time. Is the percentage of badness 5%, 10%, 20%? Something better than a guess. Look, we may all know a horse’s ass when we see it but that doesn’t mean horse’s asses are running rampant (puns notwithstanding).

    This isn’t meant to be a argument of ethics in recruiting: You do what you need to do to look at yourself in the mirror and over time the free-market system and a little bit of information will do a fine job of taking care of the horse poo.

    Thx for the thoughts Katie.

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    by Katie Carty Tierney on Jul 12, 2007 - 04:21 PM read 269 times
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    Steve - good point, again. I didn’t offer numbers, because I don’t have them. What I have is anecdotal evidence from the years I spent as a techie, and from the experiences of my friends and colleagues.

    Maybe I’ll do some searching to see what I can come up with…

    Thanks, again, for the visit.

    -Katie

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